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	<title>Comments on: The Creation/Evolution Debate</title>
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	<description>Examining The Evidence That Shows Why God Really Exists</description>
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		<title>By: Tyao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Brown, you sure do have faith that one day we will find the answer to these questions. You have faith that the Bible will be disproved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Brown, you sure do have faith that one day we will find the answer to these questions. You have faith that the Bible will be disproved.</p>
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		<title>By: yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article!

puts it so simply a caveman could understand it! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article!</p>
<p>puts it so simply a caveman could understand it! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your questions are a lot easier than you think they are. And I have only the most casual layman&#039;s understanding of biology.

1) Which evolved first: blood, the heart, or the blood vessels for the blood to travel through?

Blood. Single-celled organisms are small enough that nutrients can circulate via Brownian motion. Given that need it&#039;s easy to imagine organelles within the cell that evolve to transport nutrients, just like blood does, without a heart to push them, or vessels to move them through.

2) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

Pooping. That one is not a guess. Waste elimination is something all life does. Even plants, though their waste is oxygen. Do plants have mouths, stomachs or digestive fluids? Do bacteria? Please, for crying out loud, think for five seconds minimum before putting these up as impossibly vexing.

3) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

Insects don&#039;t have lungs. They have valves and muscles that are a little bit lung-like, if you squint, but smaller insects don&#039;t even have that. But they still use oxygen, by passive circulation through pipes. Go smaller and you can eliminate the pipes too.

4) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Recent 18th century discoveries suggest there exists life smaller than the scale at which all these questions could be considered even momentarily vexing. Lots of living things get by without bones, ligaments or tendons. It&#039;s either blood supply or muscles, depending on your definition of muscle.

Finally, I must handle your question about whether I have enough blind faith to believe that life popped into existence from non-life. You clearly have it in spades, since &quot;popped into existence&quot; and &quot;created by God&quot; are exactly the same thing. 

No, I don&#039;t have that kind of faith, or any other kind. Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life, only the origin of species -- you know, the title of the actual book? 

But I am sanguine about not knowing the answer to every question until the evidence is in. I&#039;m sure not going to look it up in a 1400-year-old book. One day we&#039;ll figure it out, and when we do you&#039;ll still stick to the book, you&#039;ll just make your list one easy question shorter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your questions are a lot easier than you think they are. And I have only the most casual layman&#8217;s understanding of biology.</p>
<p>1) Which evolved first: blood, the heart, or the blood vessels for the blood to travel through?</p>
<p>Blood. Single-celled organisms are small enough that nutrients can circulate via Brownian motion. Given that need it&#8217;s easy to imagine organelles within the cell that evolve to transport nutrients, just like blood does, without a heart to push them, or vessels to move them through.</p>
<p>2) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?</p>
<p>Pooping. That one is not a guess. Waste elimination is something all life does. Even plants, though their waste is oxygen. Do plants have mouths, stomachs or digestive fluids? Do bacteria? Please, for crying out loud, think for five seconds minimum before putting these up as impossibly vexing.</p>
<p>3) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?</p>
<p>Insects don&#8217;t have lungs. They have valves and muscles that are a little bit lung-like, if you squint, but smaller insects don&#8217;t even have that. But they still use oxygen, by passive circulation through pipes. Go smaller and you can eliminate the pipes too.</p>
<p>4) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?</p>
<p>Recent 18th century discoveries suggest there exists life smaller than the scale at which all these questions could be considered even momentarily vexing. Lots of living things get by without bones, ligaments or tendons. It&#8217;s either blood supply or muscles, depending on your definition of muscle.</p>
<p>Finally, I must handle your question about whether I have enough blind faith to believe that life popped into existence from non-life. You clearly have it in spades, since &#8220;popped into existence&#8221; and &#8220;created by God&#8221; are exactly the same thing. </p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t have that kind of faith, or any other kind. Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life, only the origin of species &#8212; you know, the title of the actual book? </p>
<p>But I am sanguine about not knowing the answer to every question until the evidence is in. I&#8217;m sure not going to look it up in a 1400-year-old book. One day we&#8217;ll figure it out, and when we do you&#8217;ll still stick to the book, you&#8217;ll just make your list one easy question shorter.</p>
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