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	<title>Comments on: The Creation/Evolution Debate</title>
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		<title>By: leah</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this article. It really helped alot with my english paper. :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this article. It really helped alot with my english paper. <img src='http://whygodreallyexists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Thompson</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m a biologist, I&#039;m not going to discuss any of your points, but what I will say is that I can see why you haven&#039;t talked to an evolutionary biologist that will shed some light on your unanswered questions. If you go on with angry rambling like this few people will want a discussion. 

What you are good at is pressing your point on others. Not evaluating evidence objectively. Evolution is no different to any other scientific theory in its approach, methods, results and conclusions. 

Please be cautious when you use the words &#039;scientist&#039; and &#039;scientific evidence&#039; when backing up your ideas as 99.9% of scientists do agree that the theory of evolution is sound. Of course there are holes to be filled but this is the same with all of science, scientists don&#039;t claim to know everything! the great thing is these holes get smaller with time as you will see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m a biologist, I&#8217;m not going to discuss any of your points, but what I will say is that I can see why you haven&#8217;t talked to an evolutionary biologist that will shed some light on your unanswered questions. If you go on with angry rambling like this few people will want a discussion. </p>
<p>What you are good at is pressing your point on others. Not evaluating evidence objectively. Evolution is no different to any other scientific theory in its approach, methods, results and conclusions. </p>
<p>Please be cautious when you use the words &#8216;scientist&#8217; and &#8216;scientific evidence&#8217; when backing up your ideas as 99.9% of scientists do agree that the theory of evolution is sound. Of course there are holes to be filled but this is the same with all of science, scientists don&#8217;t claim to know everything! the great thing is these holes get smaller with time as you will see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Koos</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Koos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wocher, yon Daveness. Attempt to answer those questions by answering the questions, not going off topic. Apply the evolution to creatures in need of each mentioned part and then no-brain it out again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wocher, yon Daveness. Attempt to answer those questions by answering the questions, not going off topic. Apply the evolution to creatures in need of each mentioned part and then no-brain it out again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, heard of &quot;bait and switch&quot;? Well, that&#039;s what your honest (but misled) opinion gives us. By this I mean that you start talking about one thing and then jump to another so that the &quot;audience&quot; is sucked in to believing. For example. evolutionists start talking about micro evolution (ie. Darwin&#039;s Finches,  wolves to dogs) which is called speciation which nobody denies exists, but then in the same breath they mention molecules to man evolution (macro). That is being dishonest and unaccountable. In the first case, absolutely no new &quot;information&quot; was created, only loss of genetic data. Molecules to man evolution requires an increase in information according to even Darwinian theory. The latter has never never never been observed even given falsified environments and deliberate scientific injection of circumstances.

So basically, what I am saying is that talking of an insect that can breathe without complex lungs and then jumping to the breathing apparatus of more complex organisms mentioned in the article are bait-and-switch. No transition between the two has ever been observed to exist, ever! And it&#039;s that very transition that is not possible because the definition and laws of Darwinism state that unless the next jump is advantageous, it would be naturally selected out. So having half formed unfunctioning organs floating around our body is bad. Everything would have had to appear immediately, aka &quot;created&quot;. The spirit of the article when asking the question, I believe implies that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, heard of &#8220;bait and switch&#8221;? Well, that&#8217;s what your honest (but misled) opinion gives us. By this I mean that you start talking about one thing and then jump to another so that the &#8220;audience&#8221; is sucked in to believing. For example. evolutionists start talking about micro evolution (ie. Darwin&#8217;s Finches,  wolves to dogs) which is called speciation which nobody denies exists, but then in the same breath they mention molecules to man evolution (macro). That is being dishonest and unaccountable. In the first case, absolutely no new &#8220;information&#8221; was created, only loss of genetic data. Molecules to man evolution requires an increase in information according to even Darwinian theory. The latter has never never never been observed even given falsified environments and deliberate scientific injection of circumstances.</p>
<p>So basically, what I am saying is that talking of an insect that can breathe without complex lungs and then jumping to the breathing apparatus of more complex organisms mentioned in the article are bait-and-switch. No transition between the two has ever been observed to exist, ever! And it&#8217;s that very transition that is not possible because the definition and laws of Darwinism state that unless the next jump is advantageous, it would be naturally selected out. So having half formed unfunctioning organs floating around our body is bad. Everything would have had to appear immediately, aka &#8220;created&#8221;. The spirit of the article when asking the question, I believe implies that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyao</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2335</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Brown, you sure do have faith that one day we will find the answer to these questions. You have faith that the Bible will be disproved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Brown, you sure do have faith that one day we will find the answer to these questions. You have faith that the Bible will be disproved.</p>
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		<title>By: yo</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article!

puts it so simply a caveman could understand it! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article!</p>
<p>puts it so simply a caveman could understand it! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brown</title>
		<link>http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/the-creationevolution-debate/comment-page-1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your questions are a lot easier than you think they are. And I have only the most casual layman&#039;s understanding of biology.

1) Which evolved first: blood, the heart, or the blood vessels for the blood to travel through?

Blood. Single-celled organisms are small enough that nutrients can circulate via Brownian motion. Given that need it&#039;s easy to imagine organelles within the cell that evolve to transport nutrients, just like blood does, without a heart to push them, or vessels to move them through.

2) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

Pooping. That one is not a guess. Waste elimination is something all life does. Even plants, though their waste is oxygen. Do plants have mouths, stomachs or digestive fluids? Do bacteria? Please, for crying out loud, think for five seconds minimum before putting these up as impossibly vexing.

3) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

Insects don&#039;t have lungs. They have valves and muscles that are a little bit lung-like, if you squint, but smaller insects don&#039;t even have that. But they still use oxygen, by passive circulation through pipes. Go smaller and you can eliminate the pipes too.

4) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Recent 18th century discoveries suggest there exists life smaller than the scale at which all these questions could be considered even momentarily vexing. Lots of living things get by without bones, ligaments or tendons. It&#039;s either blood supply or muscles, depending on your definition of muscle.

Finally, I must handle your question about whether I have enough blind faith to believe that life popped into existence from non-life. You clearly have it in spades, since &quot;popped into existence&quot; and &quot;created by God&quot; are exactly the same thing. 

No, I don&#039;t have that kind of faith, or any other kind. Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life, only the origin of species -- you know, the title of the actual book? 

But I am sanguine about not knowing the answer to every question until the evidence is in. I&#039;m sure not going to look it up in a 1400-year-old book. One day we&#039;ll figure it out, and when we do you&#039;ll still stick to the book, you&#039;ll just make your list one easy question shorter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your questions are a lot easier than you think they are. And I have only the most casual layman&#8217;s understanding of biology.</p>
<p>1) Which evolved first: blood, the heart, or the blood vessels for the blood to travel through?</p>
<p>Blood. Single-celled organisms are small enough that nutrients can circulate via Brownian motion. Given that need it&#8217;s easy to imagine organelles within the cell that evolve to transport nutrients, just like blood does, without a heart to push them, or vessels to move them through.</p>
<p>2) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?</p>
<p>Pooping. That one is not a guess. Waste elimination is something all life does. Even plants, though their waste is oxygen. Do plants have mouths, stomachs or digestive fluids? Do bacteria? Please, for crying out loud, think for five seconds minimum before putting these up as impossibly vexing.</p>
<p>3) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?</p>
<p>Insects don&#8217;t have lungs. They have valves and muscles that are a little bit lung-like, if you squint, but smaller insects don&#8217;t even have that. But they still use oxygen, by passive circulation through pipes. Go smaller and you can eliminate the pipes too.</p>
<p>4) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?</p>
<p>Recent 18th century discoveries suggest there exists life smaller than the scale at which all these questions could be considered even momentarily vexing. Lots of living things get by without bones, ligaments or tendons. It&#8217;s either blood supply or muscles, depending on your definition of muscle.</p>
<p>Finally, I must handle your question about whether I have enough blind faith to believe that life popped into existence from non-life. You clearly have it in spades, since &#8220;popped into existence&#8221; and &#8220;created by God&#8221; are exactly the same thing. </p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t have that kind of faith, or any other kind. Evolution has nothing to say about the origin of life, only the origin of species &#8212; you know, the title of the actual book? </p>
<p>But I am sanguine about not knowing the answer to every question until the evidence is in. I&#8217;m sure not going to look it up in a 1400-year-old book. One day we&#8217;ll figure it out, and when we do you&#8217;ll still stick to the book, you&#8217;ll just make your list one easy question shorter.</p>
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