Hi Meranda

I have been reading quite a few of the prophetic dreams,words and visions on your website. I have a question for you if you don’t mind please.

There are so many prophecies on the Web by so many Christians, and all the prophets claim that they hear from the Lord. They get visions and dreams and get taken to places in the Spirit. And it happens a lot of the time, like every week or month. But so many of the prophecies differ. And they differ so much. For example it seems like many of the well-known/popular prophets believe that Trump is going to turn everything around. Apparently Kim Clement said that Trump will be president for 2 terms. This is in direct contrast to what most of the Christians have to say about it on your website. They say that things are going to get worse like fairly soon and we need to prepare and be ready (especially spiritually). I tend to believe this.

What is a Christian to think about this ? How utterly confusing is this for people who are supposed to hear from the prophets and be warned about coming events that the Lord wants them to know about. What is the truth ? Obviously many, many of these prophets are false because they contradict each other.

It is really confusing. The answer is that one must hear from the Lord and I’m trying hard to do that. How are people to know the truth. The church is fast asleep like some of the prophecies say. But the problem is that ordinary Christians don’t want to hear about prophecies because so many are not from the Lord. There are like hundreds if not thousands of prophecies on the Web.

I would like to know what you think about this. I’m battling to hear the Lord wrt what is coming and I’m so frustrated because it seems that very few prophecies can actually be trusted. And as a Christian I cannot think how Christians can give prophesies/words/dreams/visions if it isn’t from the Lord. It is much worse than just being a liar. It is misleading God’s people.

Kind Regards

– K


Meranda

 As an avid student of Bible prophecy, I follow both your and Michael’s sites with great enthusiasm, and have read his book “The Rapture Verdict.”  Was just watching him speak at Morningside a few minutes ago. Am really interested in your study a couple of months ago regarding “Election 2016 Prophecies- Which Are Correct?”  Do you plan to write an article or somehow print those “Thus saith the Lord” prophecies which did not come to pass? I would surely like to know which prophets/prophetesses to follow and which to refrain from listening to.  May God richly reward you and Michael, your ministries, and all that you endeavor to do for Him.
 
-S
 
 
Hello,
 
Like you all, I have an interest in the gift of prophecy and believe there are true men and women hearing from God out there, its a matter of finding them. 
 
What I have found along the way is that there are prophets who are hearing accurately but they are hidden away.  They don’t have a youtube channel or a voice on a major platform. 
 
My husband was telling me that he ran into a couple of ladies recently who spend a lot of time in their prayer closets.  They hear from God and on separate occasions they were talking to Michael about what was coming around the corner.  What they had to say from a prophetic standing point were strikingly similar.  Yet they don’t talk to one another.  There are those in the body who are hearing from God, and when you know the themes of what God is speaking on, they should match up with one another if they are from one source.  
 
We met a family where the dad has the gift of prophecy.  He told me that he has seen some of the major themes of judgement coming like the tsunami coming to the coastlines and the asteroid prophecies.  Would you believe that most of his children also have seen these things too?  Most of his children also have seen these same things in dreams.   I believe these prophetic gifts tend to run in the family line, because it seems like often times when the parent sees open visions and prophetic dreams, its almost certain their children have it too, and may have to develop it.  In my conversations with this friend he was desperate to come across others who also have these offices but feels alone in it. 
 
On the other hand, I have to wonder about those prophets who have a word of knowledge every day, and are tuned into the 800+ other prophets on facebook who also can give you a word of knowledge at a moments notice.  What ever happened to praying over a word?  Or fasting for a direction?  I joined a prophetic facebook group where people were asking for a word of knowledge and within 5 minutes in this group chat many believers chimed in with a special word from God for them.  I was shocked at what I saw because there wasn’t just one instance of this, but dozens of examples and I left the group. 
 
There are endless prophecies that talk about all-things-great coming for this nation.  I went to one website after Donald Trump got into office and counted a page of prophecies that talked about the glory coming for the United States.   
 
There is a segment of believers out there who are seeking prophecy that will tickle their ears, and they won’t listen to any prophecies that talk about judgement ahead.  They just want to believe what they want to believe. 
 
I have noticed that any prophecies that talk about America prospering have been picked up by the major Christian outlets,….but yet on the other hand,  those same outlets won’t touch those prophecies which talk about tremendous judgement around the corner. 
 
So there are those who have their fingers in their ears not wanting to hear that bad times are ahead…..yet, there are believers out there who know what is coming straight ahead and are watching the prophetic circles like you and I, and want to figure out who they can trust who are telling things accurately. 
 
These same people are serious about having a relationship with God and a holy walk set apart for Him.  These people keep the commandments of God, and have a fear of Elohim.  They are tuned into prayer and worship and presenting the gospel to others.  They also have a respect for the gifts of the Holy Spirit. 
 
Back to your question….
 
Last year I put together a list of prophecies about the election.  You can find many of them here. 
 
I write down what I found in my search for what the prophetic voices were saying.  With this election so many prophetic voices were given words and dreams about key figures that it gave us all an opportunity to test those prophecies.
There was quite a few prophecies that were completely wrong.   There were quite a few prophecies that were wrong again and again again.   I was called out on them, and decided to wait until the inauguration.
 
Right after the inauguration there was a lot of chatter in the prophetic circles about the prophecies that were wrong.  It turned out MANY people had their eyes on those same prophecies. 
 
There was a lot of name calling, and banter going back and forth.  I collected prophecies on my website which turned out to be inaccurate…..  but there is no way I would expose those voices, and point the finger in their face.  There might be a missing element in their prophecy and I know for certain I have a lot of room to grow in to understanding this office to be the judge of these things.  They also could be completely wrong, and it is up to them to go to God and ask what went wrong.  Its not for me to publicly humiliate them.
 
I have a record of what people have said, so anyone can go back and see for themselves what was said. 
 
Those who heard Trump becoming president were:  Joanie Stahl, Kim Weir, Henry Gruver, Kat Kerr,  Vawser, Patricia Green, Rich Vera, Claire from A Still Small Voice On Youtube,  Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj, Veronika West,  Kevin Nugent, Sherry Gorslin, Jill Steele, BarryAllen7771 On Youtube, Pastor Saeed Abedini, Nathan Leal, Mark Taylor and TD Hale
 
Now here is the snag….
 
1.  Some of those prophetic voices above see judgement coming, and some of them see prosperity coming.  You need to test them individually to see what else they have seen, and make a judgement call on what you think is truth. 
 
2.   Not all the accurate prophets out there were given a prophetic word about the election.  Keep that in mind.  There are some prophets out there who have very good track records but weren’t given a word about the elections or those key figures. 
 
It takes a tremendous amount of work to gather up the prophecies that are out there, sift through them, and then judge what has been said with the rest of the persons ministry. 
 
I tell you, its a labor of love finding these people because often times those prophetic people keep a record of their words on facebook which is tremendously hard to search through. I wish more prophetic voices had a blog which anyone can look through.  With so many prophetic voices out there, those who hear from God should make it easy for people to look through their material.  Its not so easy.
 
Or what I have found most common is they have all their information in  youtube videos.  Who has hours to look through each and every single video?  It is very time consuming.

 

3.  Another thing I have discovered along the way is that dreams and prophecy from the Lord are not always so straight forward.
 
A prophetic voice I trust is John Paul Jackson.  He had the office of a prophet, and much of what he saw for America is starting to come to pass right now.  I hope to go through every video I can find on youtube of his and devour his teachings on dreams, and interpretation of dreams.   I might even download many of his talks because youtube is notorious for removing videos. 
 
In one CD interview I listened to, JP relayed a conversation he had with a man that inspired him to teach others on dreams and visions.   JP was incredibly gifted in being able to take a dream and tell you what it means.  This man asked him how he did it, and John Paul couldn’t put his process into words.  The man he was talking to was let down, and said it was a shame because once he passed on, there would be no one to hand that torch off to. 
 
The conversation inspired John Paul to put out the knowledge he knew relating to this office in notes and videos.  Today we no longer have him with us, and I have to wonder what was not taught, or if he was able to teach enough of it to pass on. 

If you look at the above series, you will see that often times prophetic dreams are complex.  We can completely miss the meanings of symbols and colors and the sheer amount of layers that can be given in prophetic dreams.

I contemplated after the inauguration those dreams that had to do with Obama.  What confused me was many of them spoke about a very similar event.   What I had to wonder was if when THEY SAW President Obama, were they seeing an OFFICE? (The office of a president)  Or was it very specific to the man Obama?

That is something I am putting on the shelf to contemplate and investigate.   

It is a very very serious thing to say “thus says the Lord”  and what people don’t know is if they are unsure about a prophecy (whether or not it came from God, or details that were fuzzy) they need to keep it to themselves because they can curse themselves.  It really is a life and death situation.  Saying something that is supposed to come from the Almighty is a very serious matter, and the office of a prophet is not an easy task what so ever. 

It can take tremendous courage to speak something that Elohim gave you and to have faith to do so.  SO from my vantage point, I admire this office, and I am going to press forward with trying to find those who are hearing accurately, and reporting what they heard.  Along the way, I hope to learn a lot, and I hope that those who do sit in this office can teach me what they have learned as well. 

God has a plan for each and every one of us.  We need to discover what our mission is and walk in it with boldness

Huge blessings to you all.  Let me know your thoughts by leaving a comment below. 

Meranda

(Many people have written me and asked about why I haven’t been updating my blog in a while.  My husband has been given an opportunity to work with Jim Bakker’s ministry, and so we are having to iron out the details that have to do with our business and our home life. Setting up a home elsewhere on such short notice is a tremendous amount of work, and being that I am a mom as well, I am finding I am behind on my blogs.  Michael and I have always been a husband and wife team…with no paid staff,  we are finding this process involves so much.  I hope to get back to a regular blogging soon.  If you are a regular reader, THANK YOU for coming to our blogs.  It means so much.  If you want to support us, please support us by leaving comments and sharing our work.  – Meranda)

UPDATE -Looks like we are not moving…but saying right where we are. We have a very busy business….and I don’t think we can do it all. It seems like that door has shut for now. I feel like we have been blessed with our business..and the open doors are blessings too… This one just didn’t work out.

 

  What is your take on the election prophecies?  Who do you find in your research to be accurate in the office of prophecy? Share your take in the comment box below 

 

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  • Meranda Devan

    I would love to look more into John Paul Jackson. Wilkerson is another I would love to look more into. How about you?

    • MotivatedinOhio

      I like John Paul Jackson and David Wilkerson also. I find Nathan Leal to be credible. I enjoy your site even when I disagree with some articles. You may want to check out the book “When All Plans Fail” by Dr. Paul Williams. It is a faith based book about how to prepare for disaster. If you like it you might want to share it with the people who are overwhelmed, about what to do.

      Meranda you did a wonderful job just by labeling the series about the election, “What to Believe”. You were very clear that people were claiming that President Trump, Hillary Clinton, and former President Obama all had people saying the Lord had told them, would be in office.

      Best Wishes at Morningside, and remember for every Elijah there are 450 prophets of Baal, that must be dealt with.

      • Meranda Devan

        Thank you so very much. I believe we own that book “When all plans fail” by Paul Williams. We know Nathan Leal quite well, but I honestly haven’t been able to look through his prophecies. I hope to soon. Him and his wife Donna are nice people.

        I am learning more about prophecies…and it is not as cut and dry as people might expect. I think there is a lot more complication to receiving things from heaven… but it falls on the shoulders of those who are getting the prophecies.

        Another thought that I had was there is not enough mentors for those who walk in the prophetic offices. With the internet available today you would think we have access to one another…but there is still a disconnect with discipleship. Even with the giftings. To be able to sit under a seasoned prophet would be ideal for someone who has these prophetic gifts and are learning their way through them.

        I think that really applies to a lot of these offices. There isn’t enough mentorship.

        So what we are labeling false prophecies… it might be added details which seems like a lot of people do.

        Take William Branham – SOMEONE added to his prophecy about a woman president that she was beautiful. That was later added to spice things up which he didn’t do.

        So a lot of people add to their prophecies…details that God did n’t even add….

        I suppose that has to be said as well.

        • MotivatedinOhio

          I will pray for discernment for you, hopefully others will too, that will help with knowing which are actually speaking from the Lord.

          • Meranda Devan

            Thank you Janet

        • MotivatedinOhio

          Almost every person who gets a prophecy in the Bible, there is an action that needs to be taken. When a King needed anointed, God told his prophet to do it. When repentance was needed by the people, God told His prophet to tell them about what is coming. When God talked to Noah, he had to build an ark. In the New Testament there was a prophecy about a coming famine in Jerusalem, so the Corinthians took up an offering. In my studies, I read that this was about 10 yrs before the famine.

          Even when God gave Daniel visions, he was told to seal up the book for the end days. (Daniel is really starting to make sense now!) John was told to write to the churches about things they needed to change and what would come in Revelation.

          The only time prophets say “Things are going to be good” is when the people have repented and returned to Torah. I don’t see that happening in the U.S. yet. Though, I do see, like when Abraham talked to the “Angel of the Lord” about “would you spare them for 5 righteous” I believe there are 5 righteous in every small town, and big city in America. Hopefully, that will make things not quite as bad.

          • Meranda Devan

            10 years.. Isn’t that interesting. John Pauls headlines were for 10 years into the future if I am not mistaken. Maybe there is something to that time frame that we haven’t yet discovered. Interesting.

            I have often contemplated those scriptures with Sodom…and wondered if it were percentages….? It has captured my attention for sometime. We are also talking about COMPLETE destruction…. not just massive horrific storms that cripple the country to her knees.

        • MotivatedinOhio

          Meranda, Norm Franz is also someone I listen to. He uses “Thus sayeth the Lord” very sparingly. He does say what he sees coming by scripture. Occasionally he does have a word from the Lord.

          • Meranda Devan

            I will look into Norm Franz. THANK YOU

  • Paul Benson

    Hello sister Miranda;
    I have followed your series on election prophesies with much appreciation. Good job there!

    I feel the need for discernment in the life of a believer is not fulfilled so much by finding prophets who prophesy clear accurate words fulfilled in a timely manner (prophesy is often unclear and may take many years to be fulfilled) but by a discernment built by a familiarity with God’s Word and God himself. Get to know him and learn his ways and we will have a solid understanding of how he deals with nations and people. Then we will have a pattern that true prophetic words will fall into recognizably.

    God will always deal with chosen nations according to the pattern of his dealings with ancient Israel. Promise of blessing for obedience balanced against promise of cursing for disobedience. God’s judgments are both progressive and redemptive. His desire is to bring a nation in disobedience back to a place he can once again bless it. He will deal with a wayward nation with a call to repentance that increases in intensity as that call is not heeded. This can progress to the overthrow or total destruction of a nation which once knew his favor! Again, look at ancient Israel and see that pattern played out.

    This pattern is why so much of the writings of the prophets seem a perfect match for the USA. I have been saying for years that America is already under the judgment of God; and can expect that judgment to get worse and worse as the call to repentance is not heeded. There is much about our food supply, economy, pollution of our oceans and the gulf, government oversight etc, that shows a removal of God’s blessing. I am hoping the current improvement of events we are seeing through the election of Trump are a by product of the prayers of the faithful reaching God; but this nation will NEVER be great again without repentance on a nationwide scale and frankly I don’t see it.

    What is ahead for this nation? God will follow the pattern of his Word; and not the schizophrenic prophesying of the backslid prophetic movement everyone is looking to for an accurate Word from God. You were right when you said God’s true prophets are hidden ones. And their voice is only heard (and heeded) by a select few. Ultimately the fate of this nation will be determined by the actions of this nation; and that causes me great concern.

    And finally, also much discernment as to the true prophets can be found likewise through a familiarity with what the Bible says about true and false prophets; as I detailed in the blog post of mine you posted to your site. Discerning Deceivers:12 Biblical Keys… . That article continues to get good traffic on my site, and thanks again for posting it. And THANK YOU again for the series on election prophesies. Your efforts truly reflect a love for the Body of Christ.

    Blessings to you and your family;
    In Christ’s Love;
    Paul Benson
    http://www.pbenson.me

    • Scoopie

      Huge amen to this! A prophet told our small group over twenty years ago that “God’s true church is hidden “.

      • Meranda Devan

        That is so true!

    • Meranda Devan

      Thank you Paul. I am reminded over and over again the judgement we are expecting is going to be more SEVERE than we can ever imagine. I think once we see these things hit, those strong believers, warm, and luke warm believers…and non believers will fall to their knees shaking in the fear of Elohim.

      I think the only way we are going to get through the days ahead is to be close to Him…and by walking a holy walk. God is not going to honor those who are living in sin and living a double life. One foot in sin and one foot proclaiming the message of Christ.

      I think over and over again I am seeing the separation of the true body of Christ. I don’t think either camp is prepared to be honest.

      I do have hope for the future… but it the trust and faith that God has a plan.

      Nice to hear from you Paul. Huge blessings to you!

  • Scoopie

    Meranda, our sweet sis in the Lord, we pray blessing, wisdom and safety in your move and your lives. Also, increased discernment, as all is not as it appears on the surface. In Jesus’s name.

    • Meranda Devan

      Looks like we are not moving…but saying right where we are. We have a very busy business….and I don’t think we can do it all. It seems like that door has shut for now. I feel like we have been blessed with our business..and the open doors are blessings too… This one just didn’t work out.

      • Scoopie

        Michael can still travel to MO when needed, so sounds like a wise decision.

  • Meranda Devan

    Thank you* Looks like we are not moving. We love our business…and at this moment it takes every ounce of energy we have. I am not sure how we could do another job on top of that. Thought I would let you know